November 19th, 2008
Don’t Go To Seminary
Posted by Greg Atkinson under Continuing Education, Leadership, Random ThoughtsWait. Hold the phone. Don’t crucify me, yet. Allow me to share with you my heart and where I’m headed with that title. I’ll tell you my thoughts on seminary and continued education later on, if you stick to the end. If you don’t read this whole blog and say something mean, you’ll probably look like a jerk. 
Our Worship & Arts department has 5 interns. 2 college students and 3 Dallas Theological Seminary students. 4 of them I get to spend time with and invest in. 3 of them I spend a little more one on one time with. 2 really get the most from me and 1 is someone I spend a lot of time with - my intern and friend, Jonathan Moon, who I’ve referred to before on this blog.
Jonathan graduates from college this year with a degree in Cinema and Television. Am I encouraging him to join our staff at Bent Tree? No. Why? Because that would be selfish of me and short-sighted. Yes, he could continue to crank out video projects for our church, but the truth is we can find someone else to create videos.
Jonathan’s passion and dream is to be a producer in Hollywood. So, as his boss and mentor, what do I do? I push him out the door. We are a sending church. I’m constantly saying, “When you’re in LA…”, “When you change Hollywood…”, “When are you going to visit and stay with my friend, Cynthia Ware and spend some time with my friend, Phil Cooke?”
Enough about me, my intern and our situation. Here’s what I’ve felt and thought through for YEARS:
Why is it when we see a young man or woman that is sensitive to the Holy Spirit, has a solid prayer life, devours the Bible, clearly walking with God and “on fire” we automatically say, “You need to go ‘into the ministry’?” Our warped view of “ministry” means that they go to Bible college and/or seminary and become a preacher, minister or missionary.
Do we need current and future preachers, ministers and missionaries? Absolutely. Hear me out. I’ve just seen too many people over the years that were “on fire”, but were called to something in “the secular world” - only to be looked down upon and shamed because they didn’t go “into the ministry”. Shame on us.
Here’s what we need, folks: We need Christian, Spirit-led, God-fearing, prayerful young men and women to go into Hollywood, classrooms/education, hospitals, military, law and law enforcement and dare I say: politics. I grew up hearing that all politictians were crooked, evil and dirty. That may be true for some, but it doesn’t have to be true for all. Why can’t we send Spirit-filled, Godly, prayerful youth into our government?
Do you see what I’m getting at? All of this must be sought after with prayer. I’m not saying go here or there - listen to God. What I am saying is to not assume that those leaders in your youth group are destined to “ministry” and should head to seminary. Maybe their ministry will be outside the local church. Maybe they are being raised up to change the face of government/politics, movies and Hollywood, education, the medical field and our military. Just maybe.
For the record: I guest speak and teach at colleges and seminaries. I’m pursuing my PhD. I’m all for continued education, learning and personal/professional growth. I just think we need to see “ministry” more holistically and broader than just being on a church staff.
Dream with me:
- What if Christians were shaping what we watch on TV and movie screens? I’m not talking about Christian shows or movies (don’t get me started on that). I’m talking about Christians making movies that are not offensive and have a spiritual/redemptive thread woven through them. Deep stuff like CS Lewis was a genius at.
- What if Christian youth went to law school, became an attorney and joined IJM and started helping to literally free slaves???
- What if a sold-out Christian became a pediatrician, hospice nurse, surgeon? I’ll never forget going into surgery 2 years ago and my surgeon asking if he could pray for me before the surgery. I’ll never forget going into surgery 9 years ago and the anesthelogist singing hymns as he was prepping me. What a witness!
- I don’t need to tell you the stats of kids, the lack of a father figure/single parent homes, abusive homes and unhealthy situations. Think of them being able to build a healthy relationship with a Christian teacher.
- What if we had Christian scientists and researchers that marry their brains with their morals and ethics?
- What? What? What? Do you ever just dream? Dream of what the world could be?
November 19th, 2008 at 7:02 am
Great post. I agree and hope you would add business to the list of world-changing careers. Also, I’d encourage you to dream a little further - what if theological colleges and seminaries were a little less oriented towards “the ministry” and a little more towards developing folks who could be salt and light “in the world.”
November 19th, 2008 at 7:06 am
Absolutely, Fernando. I read a business book a week. Forgive me for leaving that out. We definitely need Christian business men and women.
November 19th, 2008 at 7:09 am
Greg,
You are absolutely right. Amen. My son has struggled with this. He is a gifted video and audio engineer, and wants to make his career that, but since I am in ministry full time, and he makes great video and visuals for our church, they tell him constantly, “You should go into the ministry”, He is struggling with what to do. I will point him to this article.
Thanks
November 19th, 2008 at 7:43 am
I agree with your thoughts; I also think people in the secular marketplace don’t need to go to seminary to become pastors.
I worked in politics for the exact reasons that you listed and I am now a result of a secular marketplace individual who is now a ministry leader without seminary or formal Bible study.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:17 am
As a seminary professor I immediately thought this was another post about how seminary doesn’t prepare you for ministry, etc. I am happy to say that I think you make a good point. We must launch people and renew our idea of ministry to successfully impact culture.
November 19th, 2008 at 8:21 am
On point. Love the post and your heart behind it!
November 19th, 2008 at 8:54 am
An excellent post which hits directly on why our culture is as dark as it is already. Probably for the last 75 years or so (from about the time of the Scopes Monkey Trial at least) Christians have abandoned our culture to godless secular humanism. This forfeiture of action by Christians and the rise of Cultural Marxism as espoused by Antonio Gramsci have led us to this state. As long as Christians see there calling or ministry as limited to the clergy and primarily foreign missions (which requires the attendance at seminary) then our slide into cultural Marxism will continue at an ever increasing rate. We need “missionaries,” if that is what you want to call them, in ALL aspects of our culture. We need to get started on our own “long march” through American culture to retake it for God.
November 19th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Great insightful post, Greg. And of course, I’m waiting for Jonathan.
November 19th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Could not agree with you more… we have got to stop isolating the church from this world… In it but not of it means IN IT! I cannot wait to hear about the work that Jonathan and others like will do as they represent Christ in so many different fields!
November 19th, 2008 at 11:00 am
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November 19th, 2008 at 11:11 am
This has been a “movement” talked about for some time with a lot of people living it out…check out the book “Roaring Lambs” which was written about ministry in the fields of entertainment years ago…there is also the Hollywood Prayer Network as well as the Act One program out in California that develops actors, writers and producers…their groups swung through Dallas about five years ago and host annual conferences all the time…
Tons of people are already walking these passions out…you just have to step outside of a traditional church staffing model to see it…I think that’s what you are saying and realizing as well..
November 19th, 2008 at 11:39 am
As someone who is in his early 50’s, been a Christian for 5 years and is just starting seminary, I think you make valid points.
My 30 year business career, couple with seminary, is going to give me an opportunity to minister both to executive level business people as well as those starting out who will be the future leaders of business. It is not an opportunity that is open to all if you do not have an extensive business background.
There are areas in life that you have to work your way up through before you have any street credibility to talk about. Bible college to seminary to pastoring/ministering might not always get it done.
For many, the question may be when to go to seminary, not whether to go.
Good post! Thanks!
November 19th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Awesome post. I’ve been in the same boat as Louis’ son, and I always have to ask, “Even if God leads me to working at a church, how would going to seminary make me a better producer or cinematographer?”. On the other hand, I am reminded of guys like Craig Groeschel and Mark Driscoll whose bachelor degrees are traditionally not related to pastoral ministry or church leadership, but they later (after being called to pastor) pursued master’s degrees in divinity and theology.
Point being, as Greg wrote, we need more Godly teachers, lawyers, doctors, authors, screenwriters, producers, etc., and even then, if God puts a desire to pastor in you, you can still pursue that in a master’s degree and be able to claim street credibility, as AndyC pointed out.
November 19th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
After 3 years of seminary and 3 more, or 4 or 5… depending on if I can get off this ship, i will always recommend it and tell others to “highly consider it”. But I’m never dogmatic about it, because i’ve seen enough amazing things God can do without it.
If you’d like to know “shame” and pressure to goto seminary… jump in a conversation with koreans and ministry… holy cow.
November 19th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
Dude,
Was wondering if I could get my money back? I think seminary is great experience, taught me a lot-was at difference place in my life when I went. Seminary does not = godly or “prepared for ministry” though. I am only one on staff that actually went to seminary-I think I may be the only one with a college degree. It’s not for everybody, but I think education is important and I think seminaries need to look behind educating pastors and counselors and maybe helping to educate the “priesthood of believers.” I had a friend who went and his intention was to go back into the “secular” (I really hate that word) workforce. Everybody thought he was wasting his education. I say “bravo” we are called to go, or “as we go” as Christ followers as a priesthood. I would even challenge pastors about the whole calling thing and being one vocational. What would it look like for us to get out into the world being bi-vocational and using whatever education we have, whatever experience we have for Kingdom? Ummmm-let’s try it. Takes huge leap of faith, but then again, God’s on our side right?
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November 20th, 2008 at 9:38 am
Great post Greg.
I loved/love seminary. But that is not the only place to serve God for sure. I remember everyone in my dad’s church (not everyone of course) telling me that I would be a minister cause my dad was a minister, and that I should go to seminary…because that was the route. I truly believe that was the route for me…the journey God placed me on…but now I’m heading to a different place that I probably wouldn’t be had I not gone that route.
I’m thankful that you are sending your interns out into the world. We need more passionate Christians out changing the world.
We must be able to help young people/old people/whoever discern the paths God is putting them on, and then help walk along with them on the journey.
rhett
November 20th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Very cool post. I’ve subtly and unintentionally made this mistake before - confusing passion with calling. We need passionate people in all walks of life and passion doesn’t always translate to calling. I think we need to leave that job to the Holy Spirit.
November 20th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Good article — thanks. Our organization pursues people who first have a heart for God (like really), second have a heart for kids, and third — enthusiasm for encouraging, coaching and helping others by modeling Christ — and we’ve seen so many, many staff members that really get it. I wouldn’t say that they’re mutually exclusive (heart for God vs. seminary grads) but it certainly isn’t a requirement.
November 20th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Good thoughts, and I agree with you. I’d add that what we “need” is not so much no seminary but better seminary, more in line with a kind of monastic training, where people actually get skills a long with the theological education. I really and truly think the church needs more people with good theology rather than less, especially in America where I think we’re still reaping the effects of earlier fundamentalist anti-intellectualism.
On a side note, I go to Fuller and I actually no a number of people working in Hollywood who go to or have gone to Fuller, and I also no Fuller students who are now going to law school. So it does happen.
November 20th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Great Post. I’ve been pushed to seminary every since Junior High and I had the slitest interest in prayer. When people would see me walking out of adoration or praise and worship and ‘lit up’ for my faith and excited about our wonderful faith, people would immediately say, ‘you need to go to seminary.’ It’s super easy for me to brush it off, and actually take it as a compliment but not only do we need holy men and women in Hollywood, we need holy mothers and fathers, lawyers, business men, doctors etc. I’m still looking at my options and am open to whatever God reveals to me. I pray that I have to strength to follow His will rather than choose my own selfish path, but i don’t need people telling me what the lord wants me to do. Thank you but no thanks. Instead of throwing your opinion on people, tell them that it’s nice to see these certain holy characteristics and that God surely has great plans for you. Just a though. Thanks for the post.
God bless you!
November 20th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Greg, I started reading your blog (and following you on twitter) because of your expertise in the church/tech world. But this blog post is incredibly timely for me. I am a seminary graduate who has spent about 5 years trying to fit in a mold that probably doesn’t even fit. I have had a great experience pursuing my religion degrees from my Christian colleges and universities and I wouldn’t trade them for anything. I even excelled academically. I also had great experiences with various mission trips and being on staff at churches. But it wasn’t my calling. I was only fulfilling the expectations that I thought others had for me.
It hasn’t been until the last 6 months that I’ve been faced with my own reality and sense of calling (as opposed to what everyone else was saying I should be called to do). Saturday is the last day I will be a chaplain at the hospital where I work. I’m stepping away from “the ministry” to find my true calling, likely in technology somewhere. Thank you for this post - you are spot on. I speak from experience.
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November 22nd, 2008 at 7:33 am
Greg,
I agree. My first year of seminary in 1971, (don’t do the math), was when I discovered I was feeling called to follow a “non-traditional” path in ministry For the next 35+ years I was and am a “bi-vocational” pastor. There are so many healthy churches with small membership who need pastoral care, it was not ever hard for me to find a place where I could offer my more traditional pastoral skills.
At the same time, it left me time to do ministry in a more “non-traditional” way; I taught HVAC to unemployed and underemployed students. (I’ve always maintained I did more ministry among these students then I ever did in the small churches I served; they actually were more base and retreat). Along the way I picked my media skills, Masters in Religious Communication, and surprise, surprise have gone full circle and find myself back at United Theological Seminary teaching media. Here at UTS, and I know other seminaries, we have recognized the wisdom of your words and founded the Institute of Applied Theology primarily for people who want a bit more foundation, but do not feel called to parish ministry.
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Excellent post. The Great Commission doesn’t say, “Stay within the safe confines of the Christian community and preach the Gospel…”
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Check out Frank Viola and George Barna’s book called “Pagan Christianity” and it will open your eyes to our traditions that are not biblically based. I just finished it last night and I can honestly say, apart from the Bible, this one book has radically changed my paradigm probably the most of any.
November 22nd, 2008 at 10:27 pm
This post really jumped out at me! One of our sons is in an Los Angeles area college. His dream job would be to be involved in the film industry. All of the way through high school he was the student leader in many different ministry groups, at several different churches. He has a solid prayer life, dedicated and disciplined in his time in the Word and is uber creative and is very evangelistic. He also had/has a video camera with him just about everywhere and was/is active in theater. So it seemed like he should be in the ministry…both to himself and those around him. When he started sharing with people that he was wanting to pursue theater arts and film in college, the response was bizarre. Nothing about him had changed. Yet people reacted to his decision to not go to seminary, as if he had completely betrayed his faith.
November 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
“What if Christians were shaping what we watch on TV and movie screens?”
Where is the assurance that all great movies are absent of some foul language and “offensive” material? Shawshank Redemption has been hailed as one of the greatest films ever made, and it includes gay rape scenes, foul language and murder. That doesn’t make it bad, if you ask me, it makes it more compelling.
“What if Christian youth went to law school, became an attorney and joined IJM and started helping to literally free slaves?”
According to your Bible, slavery is perfectly fine. It would be against your Bible to free slaves, because the Bible and your God specifically condone slavery, how many slaves you can have, and how you can beat your slaves.
“What if a sold-out Christian became a pediatrician, hospice nurse, surgeon?”
As long as he/she is a good surgeon, I would much rather they go onto a medical field than go to Seminary. It would be much more productive to society for Christians to go on to real jobs, as long as they don’t preach while they do those jobs, than to go become indoctrinators.
“I don’t need to tell you the stats of kids, the lack of a father figure/single parent homes, abusive homes and unhealthy situations. Think of them being able to build a healthy relationship with a Christian teacher.”
Just because someone is a Christian doesn’t make them moral or good or immoral or bad, just as being an Atheist doesn’t make someone moral or immoral. Show me the statistic that shows a Christian family is much more “loving” than an atheist family. Show me the statistic that shows a Christian teacher is much more compassionate than a non-Christian teacher.
“What if we had Christian scientists and researchers that marry their brains with their morals and ethics?”
It is my understanding that around 38% of scientists (according to one statistic) are atheists. Does that make them immoral and thus their secular science useless? Hell no. Science is, and will always be (unless we prove a God), secular. The scientific method is not religious. Studies in physics and chemistry are not religious, they are secular. Yet they are just as “moral” (as if you can label science as moral or immoral) as something a Christian scientist would do. And no, I’m definitely not talking about Christian Scientists, those anti-vac whackjobs.
“What? What? What? Do you ever just dream? Dream of what the world could be?”
Yes, I do. I can imagine what kind of world we would live in. A world under a stranglehold of religion would be infinitely worse than the world now. You haven’t even defined Christian; there are so many denominations of Christian that when you suggest a world run by Christians, I don’t even know what you mean. Religion doesn’t make things right. Christianity doesn’t make things moral. I am perfectly moral, most likely much more moral than that self-righteous asshole Yahweh from your Bible, without religion. If you think that Christians in high level positions of society would make the world better, you are incredibly ignorant; just take our president, who thinks God wanted him to start a war. Great job, Christianity.
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Wow, Walker - that’s a long reply. And “no” I’m not going to delete it. I’ve said several times before that people of all faiths and beliefs read my blog - you just proved it. Thanks for sharing.
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November 24th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Well written and too true!
When I was a young school teacher and new christian I constantly found myself walking out of step with the church. For some foolish reason I (alone it seemed) thought that the Word of God was primarily meant to be used for stuff outside of church, like work. In church it seemed that every bit of bible teaching directed itself towards evangelising the lost or some other aspect of the church’s ministry.
If conversationally I asked someone how things were going, the usual answer was, “…fine,fine, I’m just waiting for the Lord to release me into full time ministry”.
I was perplexed, I thought that I had entered into full time ministry when I gave my life to the Lord.
I was in a powerful teaching church, but it seemed that all people were doing was gathering “spiritual” knowledge for the sake of it. I saw little evidence of it being put to use. ie. Faith didn’t extend to practice.
Somewhere along the way I decided to presume that the Word meant what it said. I gathered a tool box (or arsenal) of truth which I started to use to apply in my life and circumstances to see what happened.
I have found from experience that merely forcing scripture into the mould of evangelism is a travesty. I had far better use for those truths.
I found that even if I didn’t have a fraction of the “knowledge” that my studious church friends had, I got far better mileage out of mine.
Some time later, the Lord said to me to leave teaching and come and work with the Him as my Boss. This idea caused great consternation to the christians I mentioned it to, they declared categorically that I was called to teaching.
Nope, not anymore! I had no idea what I was going to do, except that I would be an “unteacher” tomorrow.
That tomorrow came with still no idea of what to do. By the lunch time I was miraculously led into a totally new work direction from a completely unwitting source!
This ultimately led to starting a business which I ran for about 20 years. As I didn’t know much about running a business I had to really put into practice my biblical toolbox and hearing God for help and direction. As we learned on the job we began to see a much clearer evidence of God at work, -at work, than we did in church. Even our accountant came to the Lord through witnessing the illogical figures.
The Lord impressed on us a policy of making no external show of our faith, so that it was the fruit only that became the witness. We walked the walk rather than talked it. This gave us far greater credibility when we did speak, or when we were asked.
We had many young christians come for part time jobs from a couple of local bible schools. They were shocked at the way they could clearly see God move outside of the church.
It has been evident that much christian belief is that “work” is for the prime purpose of earning money to put into the ministry, rather than in itself being an action of serving God.
Being in business with the Lord is way beyond evangelism. It is about God’s reign. For God to reign in our personal territory, we need to learn to live in vision and hearing. We need to develop a sensitivity and obedience to God’s inspiration otherwise we are only doing our own thing and labelling it as God’s. A true test of this is putting our money into it.
I learned more at work of the real fatherly character of God than I ever did in church.
It is easy for us to comprehend a Christian musician writing worship, a Christian author writing christian books, or someone doing Christian counselling. But how does a bricklayer build a christian wall. Until we comprehend that truly serving God is about our obedient outworking of his sovereignty in the marketplace, rather than just making converts, the unchurched will never have a true perception of the father.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:46 am
God’s compassion is turned to people we don’t even know. He wants to use different skills to show His love and reveal His glory. Joseph feed the world through interpreting a dream and administering a process to collect food. God sustained life and was glorified and continues to be glorified through the retelling of this story. We can show the glory of God through obedience and stewardship. Kingdom principles administered by all types a people brings blessing and honor to God. Seek the Lord that you may find your place.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am
To remember that most of the scientists of the past who discovered things like gravity, the stars, and the roundness of the earth were all Spirit-filled on fire people for the Lord. To recognize that some of the greatest thinkers of our time, the people who developed different systems of government (including the US one) were all on-fire for the Lord amazes me.
Currently, to pursue the secular is looked down upon, yet the pendulum must not swing too far the other way, balance is desperately needed. We need people who will be movers and shakers in the “every day” world that passes us by, but we also need those people who will pour their lives into others at all times; the people who will go and spread the good news thru their very presence being away from where they grew up. Both are necessary, and without one or the other our world will remain a dark place.
From the monastic priests to the scientists, we all have a role and when we each step into our role it flows, yet when we try to fill someone else’s role, disaster occurs and the results are never as big or as broad as He planned. Let us not fear the secular nor dismiss the sacred.
November 25th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Well said, Sarah. I agree with the both and. That’s why I said, “Do we need current and future preachers, ministers and missionaries? Absolutely.”
November 25th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Great message and great story. Thanks for sharing such a moving mission.
@ Walker and others. I’m sorry you feel the way you do. I hope you’ve never been on the wrong end of someone claiming to be “Christian” only to be treated in an “un-Christian” fashion.
>>>”Show me the statistic that shows a Christian family is much more “loving” than an atheist family. Show me the statistic that shows a Christian teacher is much more compassionate than a non-Christian teacher.”
To be honest, I’m not sure how to answer this….but I’ll try. This fundamentally transcends statistics and pie charts. Christian values of love, compassion, and friendship. Hearing the stories of faith lived out in Christians who have honored the elderly, those in prison, the elderly, and those literally in slavery would make you cry. People literally laying down their lives for people who they don’t know, but know are creatures who are made by our Creator.
To be true and fair, Christians aren’t perfect, but by and large, if they are Christians in word and deed then the love and compassion they show is witness to their integrity, heart, and fundamental dignity as human beings.
November 27th, 2008 at 5:57 am
Amen and amen. I think you mentioned that you speak at seminaries, but this is the sort of message that needs to be in seminaries, for those who are preparing to pastor so that they don’t have a fixed idea of “full-time ministry.”
Persevere in your message. Don’t become discouraged.
November 27th, 2008 at 11:48 am
I totally agree. Please continue to share this truth. I think many young people think that they don’t ‘measure up’ if they are not going into full time ministry or going to seminary but want to use their God given gifts and passion in the secular world. God uses ‘missionaries’ everywhere–that’s what being a missionary is all about!
December 1st, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Greg, thank you for writing this article. The words are encouraging to my eyes as a local pastor who’s young boy’s/men are desiring to use their gifts and skills in Hollywood and beyond there own local church. They have been exposed to many environments which my wife and I believe will give them an amzing view of Christ and His love for others. My path through Para-Church to Church has been a great exposure for my boy’s and they will influence Christ followers and those far from Him whereever then go in life. I also appreciated the comments to the article.
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:55 pm
This is a great post. I know in a lot of youth groups, where so many people meet Christ, to commit to go “into the ministry” is held up as the best choice a young person can make, even if it is a subconscious attitude. I made that choice, and do not regret it, but I know that a Christ-follower who is a doctor, or police officer, or teacher will likely have a larger scope of influence than me, as I work almost entirely in the “church” world.
December 19th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
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